All I can say is that there has been no mention of natural voices in any printed leaflet, specification or material or in any of the dealer or show previews of the tyros by any Yamaha personel.

Tech,
This I got from their spec sheet.
Voices Preset Voices 403 Voices
(393 Normal + 10 Mega)
+ 10 Organ Flute + 480 XG Voices + 256 GM2 Voices + 31 Drum Kits + 5 SFX Kits

So, I'm not sure which spec sheet you've seen.
Terry

the official Yamaha spec leaflet. I have been to all the dealer and show presentations of tyros, and been through the menus. Nowhere does it say, or have Yamaha said anything about natural voices on tyros. They talked only of mega, sweet, live and cool voices.

Tech,
This came from the Yamaha PK site. Under products> PSR> Tyros>specs
http://www.yamahapkclub.com/english/top_e.htm
Terry

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same info as the product spec, except there they list separately the 10 mega, 14 sweet, 5 cool, 8 live voices too. Nowhere any mention of natural voices...

Well then what are 393 normal voices? And the xg and midi? They certainly didn't have that many sweet and live voices.

This is from the 9000... and we know they have "natural voices.
Voice 848 Presets (342 Voices + 480 XG Voices + 24 Drum Kits + 2 SFX Kits)
32 programmable Custom Voices, 10 Preset + 10 User Organ Flutes

Terry



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The answer to your question is the 393 normal voices are normal voices. I can remember no mention of natural voices in the 9000 spec so wonder on what basis you believe this to be the case?

Tech,
Than enlighten me please as to the difference between normal and natural voices?

Would this mean they are normal or natural sounds?
1,065 preset sounds, 36 drum kits, 2 digital drawbars, 40 sound memories, 1 user drum kit
Terry

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I have no idea what the definition of the difference between normal and natural sound is. Yamaha imply natural means extra long samples, or maybe more samples per voice. This does not strike me as a description of the 9000 normal voices, compared to cool sweet etc. I am just telling you the facts that Yamaha claim natural voice for the high end Clavinovas, but nowhere do they claim natural voice for 9000 or tyros.

I saw the tyros preview in Frankfurt, the official new products launch and the first official tyros launch in the UK and have talked with various Yamaha people including one of the designers of the tyros about the voices. The thrust of the launch was mega voices, no mention of natural voices.

Since the 9000 has 32 MB of wave rom it is extremely unlikely that it could accomodate the natural voice samples of the high end Clavinovas in addition to sweet, cool etc. As I understand it the majority of the increased wave rom in tyros compared to 9000pro is dedicated to the mega voices which take a lot of space. The other voices may also benefit from some increased wave rom, but if this is to the level of their definition of natural voices, why not publicise the fact? They have not.

Technicsplayer,

I was wondering, since you might be one of only a handful who have heard both the Tyros and the KN7000, which one do you think has the better sounding drums in their styles?
Which one has the more realistic sounding instruments? And last, but not least, which one would you buy?
I know it's a very subjective decision, but I tend to agree with your comments.